VS Character Analysis: Dr. Doofenshmirtz (Part 2)




Part 2:


The initial blog got so long that I have decided to split it into two parts, and this is part 2. Part 1 has the rules for everything that is being considered "canon", as well as background, experience, all of Doof's inators, and his traps. For everything else, it is here in Part 2.

Robots

Norm







It should be noted that while there is typically just one Norm, there have been multiple Norms on screen before, suggesting Doof can create more if he requires it. He also has many smaller Norms, which are notably weaker than the real Norm.

Tower Robot


Dragon Robot


President Wax Robots


Bug-Eye Bot


Replacement Robot



Robot Army


Perry Suit

A robotic Perry suit that Doof piloted briefly in Candace Against the Universe. Doof says that with the suit, he and Perry are finally equally matched (3:15), which would imply that it could possess the same skill as Perry, though it is a bit unclear. What happens to the suit is unknown.

Offscreen Robots


Norm-Patrollers


Doofenbots

An army of evil robots that Doof created to take over the Tri-State Area in Agent Alert. They can keep up with OWCA Agent robots, which are fast enough to dodge lasers, and they can punch the ground hard enough to crack it or summon electrical zappers to electrocute the opponent. They are also stated to be the toughest challenge OWCA has ever seen, implying they should be superior to most of the Agents there. They likely can do more, but unfortunately Agent Alert lacks a ton of footage so it is hard to see for sure.

Giant Robot

A giant robot that Doofenshmirtz creates in Agent P's World Showcase Adventure. This robot was made to terrorize the people of Japan, but it ended up being too slow to actually be threatening. Doof then planned to turn all of the citizens into babies so they couldn't outrun it, but he ended up turning the robot into a baby robot on accident.

Robot Trolls


Norm-Bots

Doofenshmirtz actually has his own version of the Norm-Bots shown off in Agent P: Return of the Platypus. These are equipped with lasers on each arm, and sometimes have a shield that is strong enough to block multiple hits from these lasers. While they don't show it off, Perry has used those same shields to slow his descent while falling. Physically they aren't that tough, and Perry has destroyed them with just a few attacks.

Giant Normbot

Doof has a giant Norm robot mech that he pilots at the end of Agent P: Return of the Platypus. It is several stories tall and can fire lasers from its eyes, as well as rapid-fire them all around. It seemingly returns at the end of every level despite being destroyed by Perry in the previous one.

Food-throwing Robot Army


Evil Appliance Army


The army also includes several bosses, including a pinball machine and a claw machine, which has the ability to shrink someone down and suck them inside of it. The strongest member of this army however is the Carasaurus Moto-Rex, a robot created by Phineas and Ferb that Doofenshmirtz took over with the inator. It is able to shoot large fireballs, as well as ice balls and spheres of electricity, and can cause shockwaves along the ground with just a stomp.

Satellite Robots


Sentry Robots


Robot Duplicates


Gadgets

Self-Destruct Buttons



Jetpack

Doofenshmirtz has a jetpack that he uses to fly around, though it often backfires on him, such as tearing off his clothes (9:29) or setting him on fire (9:30), though it has shown to be able to work perfectly fine before. It is implied that Perry's jetpack was once Doof's that he accidentally left with Perry, and thus should likely have the same capabilities as Perry's like a Turbo Mode that flies much faster than normal, though is also uncontrollable (9:51). Doof would later make another set of jetpacks for him and Buford when they were working together (6:30).


Ray Guns

Doofenshmirtz is equipped with several ray guns that serve a variety of purposes. He typically carries these around in his lab coat for easy access should he ever need them, and has even shown keeping one in bed with him in case he needs it in the morning. They are as follows:


Termite Controlling Helmet


Harpoon

Vanessa once used a harpoon to fire a rope to city hall from a nearby building. While Doofenshmirtz has never wielded it himself, it is likely that this is his harpoon and he should be capable of using one.

Torture Device


Disinevaporator


Any Flat Surface Magnet Belt


World's Largest Firecracker


Fake Window Trick


World's Largest Baking Soda Volcano


Steak Specs


Infomercial Weapons

After being obsessed with infomercials, Doofenshmirtz couldn't stop ordering everything he saw immediately. Several of these he and Perry used against each other in their fight or outside of it. They are as follows:


Rocket Shoes


Pizzazzium Locater


Baseball Glove Extendable Arm


Anti-Romance Rocket


Evil Plant Spray


Eulg


Fog Machine


Remotes


Wrapping Gun


Memory Extraction Technology


Grappling Hook


Dancing Boots


Glove


Get-Back Hair


Price Tag Gun


Precision Gloves


Protective Hamster Ball


Missiles

Doof has a bunch of missiles loaded onto a machine that he can wheel around. These can be fired and fly across the town until they land (OWCA Files part 1, 5:50). These were able to make a massive explosion that destroyed the ground under Phineas and Ferb's house all the way down to Perry's lair (OWCA Files part 1, 14:55), and a later batch of missiles was able to destroy the newly remodeled OWCA headquarters (OWCA Files part 2, 22:15).

Shrink Grenades


Call-Listening Device


Drusselstein Herding Whistle


Cube that makes Pink Foam


Smoke Exhauster Machine


Giant Basket with Drones


Turn-Inanimate-Objects-Evil-inator Bulb

A lightbulb that once belonged to a Turn-Inanimate-Objects-Evil-inator. Attaching it to any piece of electronics will cause it to become sentient and evil, from things like a robot (b, 5:35) or a catapult to even potato wires. Removing or destroying the bulb will cause the object to lose sentience.

Merging Device

Coming from Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated, this device was a commercially-sold item that merges two objects into one. Carl (not the one from Phineas and Ferb, a minor villain from Hamster and Gretel) used it to fuse himself with his car in order to try and gain his father's love (5:22). While Doof has never been shown using or building it, the machine is created and distributed by Doof's company, so at the very least he should have access to it.

Forcefield


Gnome Rockets


Lightsaber (?)
(sorry this is literally the best quality of this part of the live show I could get)

In the Phineas and Ferb live show, Doofenshmirtz, for a brief fight with Perry, has what appears to be a lightsaber-like weapon. We don't see him do much with it besides clash with Perry's, but Perry's lightsaber was able to create a web to trap Doof in, so it is likely that Doof's is capable of the same.

Unseen Gadgets

There are a couple weapons that we've heard about Doof using but have never actually seen onscreen. They are as follows:

Vehicles

Hover Skiff

One of Doof's most used vehicles is his Hover Skiff. It was strong enough to carry a rhino and, more impressively, the Very-Very-Bad-inator (7:53), and is fast enough to cross the entire Earth in a couple of hours (6:35). It comes equipped with an eject button (10:10), a trap arm (4:30), and foot restraints, and often houses Doof's inators directly on it, such as a Shrink-inator that Doof used to shrink the major landmarks of the world (4:40) (hitting them again with the inator turns them back to normal (9:38)), and an unknown inator that Doof used against a news van (9:10).

Blimp

Doof's other most used vehicle is his blimp. Doof typically uses this to house inators in when he needs to have his schemes on the go, which typically spells doom for the blimp. It has been deflated, covered in thorny plants (19:55), crashed from the Carbon-Footprint-inator (21:22). He likely has multiple blimps, which is explicitly shown in the New Year's Blast Off game. Despite just being blimps, they are actually quite formidable in a fight. It can fly through space and shoot energy balls, and Doof can drop things from it that will fall in their own unique patterns. It is tough enough to withstand multiple attacks from Perry's rider, which can destroy anchors in a single shot, and it sometimes has inators underneath it like the Super-Claw-inator (6:20) or the aformentioned Carbon-Footprint-inator.

Jet


Crane


Monster Trucks

Doof created a line of monster trucks modeled after actual monsters (and one that looks like him of course). Nothing too special about them, they act like regular monster trucks. Doof also has a monster truck that looks like an actual monster truck.

Hot Air Balloon

Doof has a hot air balloon that rises out of his building. He can use this to fly around the city with his inators. It gets filled with bunnies and falls down to a bunny farm, where Doof abandons it.

Living Room Balloon

Truck of Doom


Space Station


Underwater Mountain Eradicator


BO-AT


Jet Rocket Skiff


Biplane


Tow Truck


Flatbed Truck

A truck that Doof uses to house his Be-Gone-inators (6:00). Outside of the one strapped to the back, it houses two more inside that can be brought out and activated with a remote button (and exploded that same way). The front of the truck was actually erased by the third Be-Gone-inator, leaving it as just the flatbed in the back (9:22).

Space Station (another one)


Fishing Boat


Misfortune


Camping Van


1957 Drusselstein Buhmshlaka 320-I

An old car owned by his Uncle Simpkin that Doof brought to the Doo Wop Hop in hopes of winning the car show. It comes with cables on the front to restrain someone (4:30), confetti to shoot out (8:00), and a turret that goes Boom Ba-ba-boom Ba-bang-a Bang-bang. It is strong enough to crash through a wall (5:20), though it gets reduced to red dust by the Rust-inator in the end (8:45).

Bug Bus

A bus themed around bugs that Doof drives around town. It has a protective shield around the driver that is tough enough to where Perry cannot break through it (3:58), and it comes with the Bugs-Me-inator on the back, which turns whatever it hits into a bunch of bugs (4:51). The inator gets dismantled by Perry, and the bus crashes into Stacy's house.

Reengineered Buhmshlaka 320-I

A reengineered version of the Buhmshlaka 320-I, this is a race car that Doof uses to enter the Montevillebad Grand Prix after causing the best racer, Paolo Vanderbeek, to not care about racing. This car comes with tons of traps to lay behind him in a race, including grease to make other cars' tires slippery (8:35), smoke to cover the racer's eyes (8:43), and a bunch of miscellaneous objects, including an elephant somehow (9:05). It can also spit tacks out to pop tires, though it spits them in the front causing Doof to instantly run over them (10:13). After having the tires popped, the car spins off course and falls into a swimming pool.

Professor Time's Time Machine

In the future, Doof will be known as Professor Time, inventor of time travel. Doof in the present was able to use this knowledge of the future to remember that he needed help in the past, and then Professor Time from the future used his time machine to travel back to the present, assisting present Doof (41:05). This time machine can obviously travel through time, and greatly resembles the time machine that Phineas and Ferb fixed in the museum.

Organ Go-Kart


Window-Cleaning Vehicle


Giant Spider Mech


Now, this is debatable, as this specific episode is a dream (specifically, Candace's dream inside of Perry's dream). However, events of this episode are referenced in the episode Phineas's Birthday Clip-O-Rama by Linda (9:10), as well as the book Phineas and Ferb's Guide to Life. The school from this episode is also referenced in The Book of Doof. With all this in mind, it is likely that some events of this episode did happen, and were twisted into Perry's dream, so I believe this mech is fine to give to Doof.

Flying Pod


Hovering Doom


Helicopters

In the comic "Iced Doofenshmirtz", Doof has two helicopters that he uses to steal a glacier and take it back to Danville. How he is controlling them is not known.

Other

Various Weapons

Doof has, at multiple times, used various objects as weapons when they normally wouldn't be seen as such. It is hard to call these "gadgets" since they aren't really, Doof is just using something in an unintended way, showing that Doof can truly fight with anything given to him. These are as follows:
Throughout his schemes, Doof has employed the use of various animals to assist him, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Doof cannot directly control these animals and many have fought back against him before, but I think they're still interesting to mention.


Steak Containment Unit (S.C.U.)


Doofania


Cork with a Jelly Bean taped to it


Giant Water Balloon


Doof's Inner Self


Genius Short Film


Gas Mask


Clones

In Random Rings, Doof created clones of himself in order to fight Perry all at once, and he also wanted to bring them all to a restaurant together. Each clone can wield a different weapon all at once and they all work together since they have the exact same plan as Doof himself. We see up to 9 clones at once, though Doof says there are 12 clones.

Abilities

Note: Since almost every character in the verse is a normal human with no super powers (excluding specific examples like the Phineas and Ferb effect), this section will comprise any ability that any normal human performs, as Doofenshmirtz is likely capable of recreating it. Every instance will make it clear who performed the ability, so if you still would like to limit Doof to just the abilities he has explicitly shown off, that's fair. Abilities that Doof has shown off will also take precedent over ones that he hasn't.

Broadway Force

It is shown multiple times throughout the series that the musical numbers that various characters perform (2:58) happens in-universe, from the backup dancers to the backgrounds. Broadway Force is the ability to break into song out of nearly anything, forcing anyone nearby to also sing or dance along, and Doof is no stranger to this. He has forced Perry to dance, forced Scott the Underminer to sing along with him, and even made a large group of people to spell out his name all at once. His range is likely far greater than that, as Isabella was able to make people across the city sing, Candace was able to make an entire baseball stadium + mall's worth of people sing and dance together, and, most impressively, Phineas and Ferb were able to make people across all of Danville sing and dance what they were doing for the entirety of the day in Rollercoaster: The Musical (1:10). This not only had the effect of making people break out into song, but could even influence their actions far in advance of when their musical number actually was, making them prepare for their musical act (3:20). Eventually, during the song "Carpe Diem", they affected characters in outer space like Meap and the Martians, characters from the past, like young Doofenshmirtz, Dr. Jekyll Doofenshmirtz, and young Love Handel, characters from the future like the dancers from "Charmed Life", in-universe fictional characters like Pinhead Pierre and Captain Implausible, and characters originating from dreams or hallucinations, like the mummy from Are You My Mummy?, the Zebra that calls Candace "Kevin", and the elf-like creatures from Odd.




The only issue is that Doofenshmirtz, or any character for that matter, has never used broadway force offensively, only ever using it for comedic or dramatic moments. However, due to everyone's knowledge of the musical numbers, as well as Danville being known for their spontaneous musical numbers, there's nothing preventing Doof from simply breaking into song and forcing his opponent to conform. Heck, without any instruments on hand, Lorraine from Hamster and Gretel was able to instantly call them to her in order to start her song, and Doof would likely be capable of the same.

Elasticity


Clairvoyance


Teleportation


Magic


Subjective Reality/Text Manipulation


Creation


Immortality/Pain Tolerance

Characters in Phineas and Ferb repeatedly survive injuries that would be lethal to any normal human, and that includes loss of vital body parts. Doof himself has survived all of his bones melting (15:46), and then them all growing back to normal all at once (18:10). Doof's duplicates could survive as just a head as well (3:49). As seen above, Ferb was able to briefly survive with just a skull, and in another instance Phineas and Ferb survived removing their heads from their body. Grandpa Fletcher was completely unharmed by losing his feet (3:18), despite the fact that that should've caused immense pain, and most impressively, Candace was somehow able to survive being turned into dust and glued back together (10:04) (despite the end of the episode being weird, it has been referenced in other material, making it definitively canon). 

Body Control


Self-Physics Manipulation


Minor Time Manipulation


Gravity Manipulation


Hammerspace

Being a cartoon, it makes sense that characters could pull abnormally large objects out of their pockets whenever they wanted. Doof has shown this ability when he pulled an abnormally large keychain out of his pocket (3:35), and this is consistent with Liam pulling a massive boomerang out of his jacket (15:38).

Spatial Manipulation (?)

Doof-2 was able to kiss Charlene-2 despite them being in completely different locations, crossing over the meta line. This probably isn't Spatial Manipulation, and could be a form of multilocation or something else, I wasn't entirely sure how to categorize it.

Duplication


Fourth-Wall Breaking

Many characters within the show, Doof included, frequently make reference to the fact that they are in a cartoon. Doof has stared directly at the camera and talked to the audience, and has referenced the episode cutting him out (8:53), fading to a commercial break, being an extended episode, the end of an episode, and has heard both his own (b, 2:48) and Perry's music themes, as well as a song (a, 3:42) initially sung by the narrator. He's even aware of the animators and storyboarders (b, 5:05). The most impressive showing that Doof has in the show is being able to effectively stop time, commenting on the events happening (a, 11:00).

Other characters have showcased this awareness as well (a full showcase can be seen here), though nothing is too notable outside of Milo preventing the end of the episode (10:15), and a random zookeeper was able to replicate this in Hamster & Gretel (11:09).

This all changes when including The Best Live Tour Ever! however, as characters in the live show repeatedly reference and interact with the actual audience. Phineas and Ferb even run into the actual fourth wall, before using a slide that was just offscreen to travel to the stage. In this show Doof is able to somehow travel to this stage without use of the slide, as well as cue his own theme song and ask the effects people for lightning and thunderbolts to be added, or dramatic music (though they can let him down sometimes). He can also change the background or call people onstage and interact with them. Other characters like Phineas were able to call for an intermission or even put the audience in the screen behind them while Phineas and Ferb remain on stage (it's a little unclear in the video but the script clears it up).


Flashback

Doof has the ability to create a vision of his traumatic past via a Flashback, letting characters view what he is imagining. These flashbacks (6:09) have been brought up (1:32) in-universe (15:38) multiple times (3:47), though occasionally characters will be unable to view the events (4:17). Doof is very proficient in flashbacks, even calling them "his thing" (29:43). Through this ability he is also able to view events that he didn't even know about (b, 0:25), and can even relive past events to slightly edit his history (5:05). Phineas was able to do something similar (0:34), though only able to edit minor things like the specific dialogue in a scene. Dakota was somehow able to call Zack's flashback instead, able to view a part of Zack's past that he didn't know about (a, 5:32), and Milo, through a flashback, was able to warn his past self about danger (a, 8:07). Due to Doof saying that flashbacks were his thing, he should likely be capable of the same.

Montage

Characters have repeatedly referenced the montage being an actual ability shown. It has been referenced as a passage of time by both Ferb and Baljeet (11:32), and characters have actually used montages to perform tasks faster. Phineas and Ferb were able to use a travel montage to cross the Himalayas in a short time (9:35), and Milo mentions it as a way to quickly swap between different activities (b, 0:19). 

Flipwipe


Sound Manipulation


Longevity

Though Doof does age like a normal person, he seems to have an above average lifespan. After surviving the explosion of the Age-Accelerator-inator, Doof was aged up over 100 years older, which would make him at least 147 given his canon age of 47. Despite this, Doof was fine, though he needed to lie down. He should also be comparable to Professor Von Doofenshmirtz, who was fine being in the sky for over a hundred years from 1903 to the present day (11:38).

Enhanced Senses


Accelerated Healing

Though I wouldn't really call it regeneration, Doof does seem to have a faster healing factor than the average person, as he was able to recover from being hospitalized with several broken bones to being completely healthy in a short time between episodes (21:55), presumably less than a day. Candace and Jeremy were also able to heal broken bones in between episodes (22:00).

Self-Sustenance

Doof should easily be comparable to characters who have gone long periods of time without food or water. For example, Doof's uncle Simpkin Doofenshmirtz was able to survive being in space since Doof was a little kid (9:03), and Professor Von Doofenshmirtz could survive flying in the sky since 1903, over a century without food (11:38). 

Matter Manipulation

Candace and Jeremy were able to stretch, separate, and reattach a rose in a dance scene, potentially leading to the idea that they could manipulate matter to an extent. It should be noted that this is from a dream episode, so it is debatable, but the events of the episode are highly implied to have actually happened at some point (see above in Giant Crab Mech for that), so do with that what you will.

Flight


Non-Physical Interaction

In the DS version of the game Phineas and Ferb: Across the Second Dimension, the characters visit the Haunted Dimension inhabited with ghosts, where Phineas, Ferb, and Perry have shown to be able to affect them with attacks. Doofenshmirtz should likely be comparable.

Dimensional Travel


Resistances

Extreme Heat: Has survived on days hot enough to boil saliva (1:05), and even burn up a bird in the sky. Burned his eye with a magnifying glass and was fine. Regularly survives at the epicenter of explosions. Survives being at the core of the Earth. Should be comparable to other characters, who can withstand being in a volcano and can be blasted by lava (2:31).









Broadway Force: Comparable to Vanessa, who could break out of Candace's broadway force.

Forms

Werecow

After swapping a part of his mind with that of a cow's, Doof started turning into a cow-man hybrid during a full moon (5:58). In this form he has a true hatred for grass, wanting nothing more than to chew down entire fields of grass. He makes crop circles in the grass, and if the moon were to be covered up by a cloud, he would revert back to a human (8:38). He also seems to be physically superior than Doof regularly, as he broke restraints that were able to keep human Doof stuck (5:58).

Monster Doof


Kinderlumper

Using the Kinderlumper-inator, Doof was able to turn himself into the Kinderlumper, a gigantic troll with large teeth from Gimmelshtump folklore. Since this transformation was based on what Doof believed about the Kinderlumper, anything shown in the song should be replicable by Kinderlumper Doof. These include the ability to stretch his arms to impressive lengths, shrink his body down to fit inside a toilet, move through the street like a snake would, and send out bats to capture people with. He also can apparently know where you are if you have ever done anything that he doesn't like, including mundane things like blinking your eyes, breathing, or turning your head. Unfortunately, this transformation only lasts a little bit and will wear off after a little bit (10:17).

M.O.D.O.K.


Feats

Overall

  • Endured years of abuse and neglect from his parents

  • Became public enemy number 3 of OWCA

  • Made his own independent country

  • Became ruler of the Tri-State Area on two separate occasions

  • Helped save the world from the rest of LOVE MUFFIN

  • Redeemed himself and joined OWCA to fight crime

  • Eventually became Professor Time and invented time travel

  • Can play the guitar, organ, ukulele, saxophone, and kazoo

  • Watches Breaking Bad

  • Defeated Rodney, Evil Carl, Professor Parenthesis, Derek the Pistachion, Agent P (very rarely)


Strength


Speed


 

Durability



Scaling

Perry the Platypus

Doofenshmirtz fights Perry on a regular basis. While Perry is, for the most part, successful in stopping Doof, that is usually because Perry is far more skilled and Doof's inventions backfire, have obvious weaknesses, or he just gets unlucky. Rarely is it the case that Doof gets overpowered by Perry, and he has shown to be comparable to him many times. Doof has blocked attacks from Perry, overpowered him with party supplies, wrestled him evenly for control of his inator, and even held him back with one hand. When the two were handcuffed together, Doof was able to drag Perry around fairly easily, and in general has shown to match Perry evenly on multiple occasions. In supplemental material he's even stated to be evenly matched with Perry. In terms of speed Doof has dodged punches from Perry and dropped a cage before Perry could react, and while he's slower, he is still shown comparable in running speed. Doof should easily be comparable to Perry.


Phineas and Ferb

The titular stepbrothers of the show. While Doof doesn't have many instances of crossing over with them, Perry has shown comparable to them multiple times, where they were equally capable of taking on the Norm Bots and Doof-2 in combat. As Doof easily scales to Perry, he can also easily scale to the boys. Additionally, in "I Scream, You Scream", Doof and the brothers mix up their blueprints and end up building the projects created for each other, showing that they have a similar level of building ability. A similar thing happens in "Undercover Carl", where Doof easily puts together blueprints created by Phineas and Ferb, showing that nothing they can do should be outside of Doof's wheelhouse.

Phineas

Ferb

Both

Inventions

Kids of Danville

Obviously, all of Phineas and Ferb's friends should be comparable to each other. They've generally shown that they can harm each other in varying ways occasionally throughout the show, and each shown capable of combating threats like the Norm Bots, Pistachions, and Doofenzombies. There's no reason Doof should be weaker than Isabella or Buford.

Buford

Isabella

Baljeet

Irving

Gretchen

Candace (and friends)

Not only is Doof-2, an equal to Doof, capable of keeping up with Candace-2 in combat, but Doof himself has fought Perry when he was in Candace's body, and was able to take hits from her body no problem. Most of them were also equally capable during the Night of the Living Pharmacists as well, showing some comparability between them again.


Other named characters

Yeah Phineas and Ferb has a lot of characters, and Doof should pretty easily be comparable to all of them. Him and others' ability to fight invasions like Norm Bots, Pistachions, and basically everything else should show that Doof is generally, at the very least, on par with other characters. This will also include guests from Take Two with Phineas and Ferb, as several of them have their own impressive feats surprisingly.


Take Two with Phineas and Ferb

Norm Bots

Candace-2 was able to take out several Norm Bots during the minecart chase scene, Phineas could bat against a baseball that was able to damage Norm Bots, and Perry can fight against them in multiple video games. Pretty simple scaling.


The Avengers

No not the Marvel Comics versions, and not even their cartoon versions, but the versions specifically from the Phineas and Ferb: Mission Marvel episode have some of their own impressive feats. Despite being literal superheroes, regular people have been able to keep up with them and their villains (this will show up again later as well). Every villain is able to take multiple hits from the heroes in the final battle and still remain to fight for a little bit, including Red Skull, who Buford was able to harm earlier in that fight. Perry could also take on all four villains at once in the mall, and in the Heroes of Danville video game can fight the villains alongside the heroes, showing further consistency for regular people like Doof scaling to the blatant superhumans in the verse, as crazy as it seems.


Milo, Zack, and Melissa (and others)

As you may know, Phineas and Ferb is not the only show Dr. Doofenshmirtz appears in. Milo Murphy's Law, created by Dan Povenmire and Jeff "Swampy" Marsh, takes place in the same universe, and after the crossover between the two series at the beginning of Season 2, Doof remained a reoccurring character in the show, for better or for worse. Throughout this time he was able to keep up with characters and vice versa, solidifying scaling between the two.


Cavendish and Dakota

The time-traveling duo of Milo Murphy's Law. Doof has had his fair share of encounters with them, as they were the ones who brought him into the show in the first place with the Pistachion takeover. Against the Pistachions they were shown fairly comparable, making the scaling quite easy.


Diogee

Milo Murphy's dog. Doof had an encounter with him before the events of the second season even occurred, though he didn't technically fight him. But he's survived basically everything Milo has, and taken the same amount of damage from things as his owner. Scaling Doof to Diogee is pretty easy.


Pistachions

The main villains of Season 1 of Milo Murphy's Law. Dakota has multiple showings of being able to beat them physically, and the main characters are able to consistently evade capture from them, giving them several avenues for scaling.


Octalians

The main antagonists of Season 2 of Milo Murphy's Law. Diogee was able to combat two of them at once, meaning every character should scale to the aliens.


Kevin

This will be explained in more detail later, but Phineas and Ferb and Hamster and Gretel are confirmed to share a universe. There are numerous appearances from characters and objects from Phineas and Ferb within Hamster and Gretel, and they are consistently stated to live in the Tri-State Area. As for scaling, while no one actually crosses over in a meaningful way, Kevin is explicitly a normal human with no superpowers. He has superhuman feats, but in-universe he is just as normal of a human as Doof himself. Given Doof's shown he is much more adept at fighting than the average human, with his showings against Pistachions and Doofenzombies, and Doof-2 being able to take over an entire alternate Tri-State Area, it stands to reason that he should be able to scale to the regular humans of Hamster and Gretel.


Bailey and Nordle

Gretel's two best friends. Once again, regular humans from Hamster and Gretel should be easy for Doof to scale to, especially these two given they are little kids in Elementary School. There's no reason to believe Doof couldn't do anything these two could.

Bailey

Nordle

Hamster and Gretel

Alright here we go. As mentioned, Hamster and Gretel takes place in the same universe as Phineas and Ferb. As you can tell from above, and some more in scaling sections below this one, regular humans regularly are able to hurt, take hits from, and keep up with Hamster and Gretel in a fight. Despite them literally having super strength, other characters should not be too far behind them. Obviously, this is going to take some more explanation, so further elaboration will be given later.

Hamster

Gretel

Both

Rouges Gallery

Hamster and Gretel have a large cast of villains, some reoccurring and some one-offs, but they are always able to take them down, usually with brute force. Additionally, a lot of these villains are regular, unamped humans, further supporting Doofenshmirtz scaling to them.


Other named characters (Hamster and Gretel edition)

(I just didn't want to make an image for this section tbh)

Miscellaneous regular people

That's right! We're not done yet. Danville has a lot of residents, and some of them...don't have confirmed names! That's it, that's basically the only difference between this and the earlier sections. Look I wanted to document all of the series's impressive feats, and some of them come from literal nobodies, so here we are. Characters from all three shows are here.

Phineas and Ferb

Milo Murphy's Law

Hamster and Gretel

Animals

That's right, we're still not done! Several regular animals are capable of impressive feats as well (as evident with Perry and Diogee of course). Surprisingly, Doof should be comparable to basically every animal we see. OWCA employs animals of all shapes and sizes, even including whales, and LOVE MUFFIN members are able to keep up with them consistently, especially shown in their big fight during "Phineas and Ferb Save Summer", as well as after that when they capture all of OWCA's agents except for Perry. Candace was able to outrun a ton of animals across the whole city in "Interview with a Platypus", and Major Monogram and Carl were able to outrun all of OWCA's agents in "The OWCA Files". Doof is able to scale to basically every regular animal that we see.

Phineas and Ferb

Milo Murphy's Law

Hamster and Gretel

Excaliferb characters (debatable)

Huh? Bet you didn't expect this one. Despite literally just being an in-universe story, Excaliferb may have a connection to the actual world of Phineas and Ferb. In the book "The Book of Doof", Doof states that he once fought Parable the Dragonpus, the character from the episode Excaliferb. Yes this is the only reference to scaling that we have, yes this is extremely debatable and most likely wouldn't be taken seriously by anyone else, yes I am mostly including this for fun. 


Weaknesses

Heinz is far from perfect. His schemes are often fueled by revenge or trying to prove himself over anything else, which can cause him to be short-sighted in a lot of issues. A lot of his inventions come about from mundane issues as well, such as trying to teleport a building away just so he doesn't have to move his chair to another window to watch a drive-in theater. His traumatic past also plays a large part in his plans, causing him to be blinded by aggression towards his family.

The biggest thing however is his immense incompetency. His plans often fall apart due to poor management and critical thinking, and although he is an incredible fighter and inventor, his common sense is incredibly lacking. He says it himself, all of his inators work, he just has poor planning skills (20:07).


But Wait, There's More!

Yeah obviously this isn't a "Before the Verdicts" section since it's just a single character, but I did want to talk about quite a bit extra here, explaining certain topics, feats, and scaling, and bring the whole blog to a close.

Cosmology

The Universe

According to Dr. Baljeet in the 2nd Dimension, what is known as "the universe" is actually a collection of many separate dimensions. They are organized in a circular form, where using a portal to travel between dimensions greatly depends on how much power you use. It is easy to travel clockwise, but going counter-clockwise would take 8 million gigawatts of energy, overloading the local power grid. These dimensions can vary a lot in size, with some being significantly smaller while others are significantly larger than their home dimension. The universe containing multiple dimensions is consistent, as Doof's Accelerate-inator that could've "destroyed the universe" (9:50) ripped a hole into another dimension (10:17), one the we see in "Brand New Reality" and have seen many times since.

As for how many dimensions there are in the universe, we see at least 22 separate dimensions during the song "Brand New Reality", plus the 1st and 2nd dimensions that we spend the majority of our time in for a total of 24 seen in the movie alone (a full list can be seen here). The console version of the 2nd Dimension video game features 4 different dimensions separate from the ones we've seen, and the DS version features 4 new ones as well. There are other dimensions that we have seen in the series, but it is unconfirmed if they are a part of "the universe" or not. However, the novelization of the movie states that the amount of dimensions the main characters traveled through is "seemingly endless", potentially meaning there is a far greater number of dimensions within the universe.

At minimum, the universe is actually a macrocosm containing at least 32 dimensions, potentially far more (leading to many universal feats above being labeled as Low Multi-Multi).

Other Dimensions

There are a couple extra dimensions that are not confirmed if they are a part of "The Universe" or outside of it. One of these was seen in "Isabella and the Temple of Sap", when Professor Poofenplotz sends a worker into a separate dimension (15:09). Another one was seen in the Milo Murphy's Law episode "Game Night", where the gang got sucked into an alternate dimension filled with Spaghetti Monsters. Finally, the Phineas and Ferb episode "Lost in Danville" takes place in an alternate, parallel dimension to the 1st dimension, with the only major differences being the number of stripes on Phineas's shirt, and that their dad was a polar bear (12:04).

Time Stream

Within the Phineas and Ferb world, time is a separate dimension that can be traveled through in order to time travel. Within the Time Stream, time doesn't pass, meaning characters will not age no matter how long they stay here. Despite this, you can still be in the time stream at the same time as someone else, or even yourself from the past. Time traveling is done with several different methods, though most commonly with "Time Juice", a separate element that will be discovered in the future. The clocks that float around in the time stream contain Time Juice, though you can end up in the Time Stream at an earlier point before the clocks showed up (30:53). This is because the clocks were knocked into there by Dakota while fighting Pistachions (31:20).

Time Traveling is weird in Phineas and Ferb. When traveling to the past, changes to the time stream are able to affect the present relative to the time occurring in both. For example, Candace fell into mud in dinosaur time, creating an imprint that her dad recognized at the museum in the present. However, after this happened Phineas and Ferb drove over the imprint with their scooter, creating a different print that then appeared in the museum. Essentially, there's two timelines happening congruently, with one able to affect the other as it goes along. This is a very consistent thing throughout all of Phineas and Ferb and Milo Murphy's Law. For another example, when Cavendish and Dakota indirectly caused the Pistachion takeover in the past, their boss Mr. Block was taken over in the future (4:04), despite the fact that the Pistachion uprising was prevented later in that episode (40:08).

People in the time stream seem to ignore changes to their past. When the Pistachion sprout that would become the first Pistachion was defeated, all other Pistachions in the present were as well (40:08). However, Derek, who was in the Time Stream at that moment, was not, instead ending up in 1955 perfectly fine (41:53). Changes in time are dictated by "Time Waves", and these waves can be blocked by certain objects like a lead-lined stop sign. This is what caused Elliott to remember Milo Murphy after Cavendish and Dakota accidentally prevented his birth, despite no one else remembering (a, 9:52). Finally, erased/prevented timelines can still, somehow, be visited, as Isabella, after giving present-day Phineas and Ferb a steel-wood fusing tool (22:10) (thus preventing the events of "Phineas and Ferb Quantum Boogaloo" from ever happening), was still somehow able to visit her timeline (20:50) (an alternate version of the first day of Summer), despite the events that led to that timeline being created were stopped by her.

Nullville

Spatial Dimensions

Every VS debater's favorite thing, but don't worry, this will be quick. Xavier and Fred build bumper cars that "move in five dimensions" (6:08). Nothing too crazy, but the book "The Ultimate Guide to Phineas & Ferb" describes these cars as being "hyperdimensional", essentially confirming that these dimensions are spatial dimensions (as there's basically no way to interpret that sentence a different way) rather than separate locations, as Phineas and Ferb has used the word "dimension" for both. With this Phineas and Ferb cosmology would most likely be 5D, and Doof's best tech would likely scale as Doof believed the Time-Straighten-Out-inator could've destroyed everything in existence.

The "Real World"

First off let me say that NOBODY SCALES TO THIS.



Now then, at several points there are references to a fictionalized version of our world, featuring Dan and Swampy as creators of the show, and other people that have worked on it as well. This is seen in "Tri-Stone Area" (1:40), "Act Your Age" (1:02), "Now I Am A Murphy" (b, 5:05), and the movie "Candace Against the Universe", and the bit from "Tri-Stone Area" is also seen in "Last Day of Summer". Characters are able to reference it (b, 5:05), see into it, and create TV screens that view it, but they never actually interact with it.

It should be noted that there are other versions of the "real world" that we see, but these are very clearly different to the one seen a majority of the time. Kelly Osbourne is said to be 3D in comparison to Doof and Monogram's 2D bodies (2:04), but this is clearly just a gag about animation style vs live-action. The audience in The Best Live Tour Ever also exists in a version of the real world, but this one can be traveled between with just a slide. We also see something similar with the artist in "How NOT to Draw Dr. Doofenshmirtz", but Doof was able to interact with this guy, while nothing close to that has happened in the show, again solidifying this as a separate world from the "real world" seen elsewhere.

So in general, the "Real World" that we see during the show treats the universe of Phineas and Ferb as fictional, but obviously no one in the show itself scales to this.

Locations + Sizes

Various objects and locations in the series have interesting sizes that should be discussed. Obviously as an episodic cartoon, many of these locations and sizes are inconsistent or have different metrics you can use to get a result, so I will be trying my best to be comprehensive. 

How tall is Doofenshmirtz's tower?

Doof's tower has a varying amount of floors that we've seen it at. He obviously lives at the top, which has been said to be the 38th floor (20:07), 40th floor (14:30), 45th floor (14:48), and 65th floor (7:32) (those middle two even coming from the same episode). It is clear that, in general, Doof takes up multiple floors, as he has his patio, his balcony, and the top of the tower all in one apartment, though he also has neighbors on his floor somehow (6:33). And in general, he's clearly not taking up 28 floors, so this is still an inconsistency. Personally I believe that the highest number that can be taken seriously is accurate. 65 flights of stairs was sung by all three members of Love Handel at once, meaning it should be accurate. It helps that this is the most recent out of all episodes that feature Doof's floor number, removing any potential "retcon" arguments. As the average flight of stairs is between 8.5-11 feet tall, that would make Doof's tower about 193 meters tall in total.



There is also a part of "Last Day of Summer" where Phineas and Ferb show blueprints that portray Doof's tower taller than the Eiffel Tower, making it at least 330 meters and quite a bit taller than the previous estimate. However, this blueprint is not to scale, and some are even out of order with their height. For example, the St. Louis Arch, which is 192 meters tall, is portrayed as being shorter than the Seattle Space Needle, which is 184 meters tall. As such, we cannot use this blueprint to get an accurate height for Doof's building.

How big is Danville?

Danville is the city that both Phineas and Ferb and Milo Murphy's Law takes place in. It is incredibly large, with both an urban area and suburbs, as well as the Danville Glacier, Danville Canyon (19:30), Danville Chasm (8:48), Danville Ski Slope (a, 6:09), and Danville Mountain (1:34), as well as several other mountains (12:25). While an exact size is unknown, we know the population of Danville is 241,000. Because of this, we can estimate a size. I used the population density of the Dallas-Fort Worth area (around 353.5 per square kilometer), as I felt it had a comparable urban-suburbs ratio. This leads to a total area of around 681.7 square kilometers, which as a circle gives a diameter of 29.46245 km. Pretty reasonable in my opinion.

However, that is not the highest you can argue for Danville. In "Doof Side of the Moon", Phineas and Ferb build a tower that reaches from their backyard to the Moon (18:02). Doofenshmirtz then rotates the Moon, which leads to the bottom of the tower reaching the top of Doof's tower (21:37). What this means is that in this moment, the distance from Phineas and Ferb's house to the Moon (384,400 km) is the same as the distance from the top of Doof's tower to the Moon, despite that being at an angle. From this we can make a right triangle using the height of the tower as the hypotenuse and the height of the tower minus the height of Doof's tower as the height of the triangle in order to get the base of the triangle, which is the distance from Phineas and Ferb's house to Doof's tower (if you want a visual, essentially I did the same thing as this Reddit post, except used a different value for the tower's height). Doing this we can get the distance to 386.2 kilometers.

Obviously this is ridiculous, and every other portrayal of it shows it to be much closer (though notably, certain angles from inator beams bouncing off of satellites could imply a similar or even greater distance). I just thought it was something interesting to point out. If you take it seriously, I made a couple of calcs for speed.

How big is the Tri-State Area?

The Tri-State Area is the greater area that contains Danville and many other cities. The Tri-State Area is actually much easier to get a size for than Danville is, as we have seen the entirety of it multiple times. Most notably, in "Escape From Phineas Tower", the tower's goal eventually gets to containing all of Phineas and Ferb's friends in its shield (10:02). After being told that they have friends all over the Tri-State Area, the tower grows into space and makes a shield that can be seen against the Earth (10:25) (seen above). We can compare this to the size of Earth in this frame and come to the conclusion that the Tri-State Area is 3,348.4 kilometers in diameter

And surprisingly, this is consistent! In "Phineas and Ferb Christmas Vacation", Doof uses the Naughty-inator to make a storm that covers the entire Tri-State Area (15:30), and notably only the Tri-State Area (10:05). This storm was also seen from space covering a significant portion of the Earth (15:44), much like Phineas Tower was. While it seems absurd to reach the conclusion that the area is that massive, the show has shown that it is multiple times.

Of course, there are minor examples of it contradicting this. Most notably, in "Minor Monogram", Doof makes towers to lift the entire Tri-State Area into the air (7:44), and we see that it is not much bigger than a city. This is generally inconsistent with not just the other portrayals of the Tri-State Area, but everything we know contained within Danville itself, so using this size for the Tri-State Area would be inaccurate.

Where is Danville/the Tri-State Area located?

So first off, speculating on where Danville is is, in all honesty, pointless. Dan Povenmire has said that there is no specific state chosen for the city, and it is only where it is for a specific episode. That is how it can be so close to the ocean in some episodes, but be a driving distance away from Mount Rushmore in South Dakota. It supposedly uses Eastern Standard Time for its time zone, but it very clearly isn't on the east coast as Doof covered the entire Eastern Seaboard in tinfoil. It is east of the Mississippi River as its broadcasting station starts with a W, but the Danville Harbor is apparently in the San Francisco area. It has mountains, it has a glacier, it has a canyon and a chasm. There are so many places that you could place Danville based on what it has and is close to, and so much contradicting information on it.

As such, I'm ignoring all of that. I'm only going to use moments where it was shown on a map, and using that Danville is consistently (0:40) slightly west of the middle of the continental US. For calculations, I used Denver, Colorado as a stand-in, as I felt it was a major city that felt the closest to what Danville could be. Feel free to disagree with this, obviously, as Danville's location is purposely inconsistent.

How deep is Perry's lair?

Perry's lair is located under Phineas and Ferb's house, and like many other things in the series it is super inconsistent. Generally, it is portrayed as being a bit below the surface, with long tubes going underground in order to reach it. Occasionally however, it is shown to be almost immediately below the surface. And one statement in the video game Where's My Perry implies that it is over 6 kilometers deep. In general this is just too inconsistent to put a single value on in my opinion, so it is a case-by-case basis. The feats that involve his lair are mostly bit feats anyway.

How far away is the Shooting Star Milkshake Bar?

The Shooting Star Milkshake Bar is a location visited multiple times in the Phineas and Ferb series. Not just in its debut episode "Out to Launch", but it makes a cameo in "The Chronicles of Meap" and "When Worlds Collide" (5:17) as well. It is a location that is important for several MFTL+ feats in the series, so determining how far it is is important.

At minimum, it should be at least as far as the nearest star. This is because it was mistaken for a star and "sold" as a star in the episode, and so it wouldn't make sense for it to be any closer than the closest star. The closest star is Alpha Centauri, at 4.24 lightyears away. 


What about the increased size of the universe?

Oh yay, something I have to deal with almost every time Phineas and Ferb is brought up in versus. Being completely honest, I hate this argument. I think it sucks, and relying on it for Phineas and Ferb debates is disingenuous. But I've gotten ahead of myself, what are the arguments exactly?

Well, in the episode "Attack of the 50-Foot Sister", Phineas and Ferb make a potion that increases something's size dramatically. For reference, Candace was 5 feet 8 inches tall before the potion (4:04), and afterwards she's 50 feet tall (9:51). At the end of the episode, Doofenshmirtz accidentally puts the potion into his Smell-inator, and the range gets set for the entire universe. The gas then spreads to the cosmos, growing everything except for the things that were already affected by the potion, bringing everything back to normal relatively (10:15). People have used this moment to argue that any feat that occurs after this episode should have its size adjusted accordingly. In my opinion, this is ridiculous.

First of all, CapejediVS's Perry vs Skipper blog covered these arguments already, and talk about how the series has essentially negative continuity, meaning the end of this episode shouldn't carry over to other episodes. It is a good takedown of the arguments and I recommend reading it, especially since I will be giving different arguments against them.

What this moment would imply is that, at one point in the Phineas and Ferb timeline, the size of the universe was increased to significantly larger than what it was before. However, this can be debunked very easily with one concept: time travel. Obviously, if the larger size was retained between episodes and something important to the series, then time travel to before the events of this episode would result in a large size difference, right? Except any time they have time traveled after this moment, characters have remained the same. Here are some examples:
You get the idea. It is clear that this moment of increasing the size of the universe was not a permanent event in the series, or that increasing the size of everything somehow "neutralized" it so that it became normal again, or any explanation that you could come up with for it. Using this moment to get higher stat arguments just does not work when put under scrutiny.

Questionable feats + more explanations

Isn't the tinfoil ball only 2 tons going at 200 mph?

So if you're familiar with Phineas and Ferb debates, you may be surprised to see the calc for the tinfoil ball get as high as it did. After all, in the episode the ball is stated to be 2 tons and flying at 200 miles per hour. However, there are issues with using this.

First off, this statement was made by Doof when he was generally shown in a sense of urgency. Not a debunk on its own, but it does call into question the legitimacy of the statement when stacked up with everything else. Most notably, 2 tons flying at 200 mph has a kinetic energy of 7251845 joules, which isn't even enough to cause as much damage to Doof's tower as it did (the amount destroyed was about as much as in this feat, which gets to 17.87 tons of TNT). These together mean that Doof's statement about the tin foil is unreliable.

Earlier in the episode, Major Monogram claims that Doof has taken 80% of the country's tinfoil and covered the entire Eastern Seaboard with it. This should mean that this 80% of the country's tinfoil was heading towards Doofenshmirtz. In fact, the comic adaptation of "Phineas and Ferb Quantum Boogaloo" explicitly states this, that the tinfoil ball contained 80% of the country's tinfoil. This would mean that Doof is getting hit with much more than just 2 tons. Using the 200 mph statement from before, this gets the feat to 1.83 kilotons of TNT

However, this speed is also debatable, since it came from the same source. We can get a higher speed value by using the location for Danville gotten earlier, Denver, Colorado, and calculating a speed based off of that. Using this method, we can get the feat all the way up to 411.46 - 881.18 megatons of TNT. As mentioned before though, Danville is not in one specific spot, and can be moved around based on what the episode needs. It is entirely up to you if you want to count this higher value for speed, as it entirely relies on the city being much farther to the west than the episode suggests (though notably in the episode paired with this one, "Candace Loses Her Head", Danville is shown within driving distance to Mount Rushmore). It entirely depends on what you want to use, I'm just giving both of them as options.

Though I guess I should address the extra calc for this feat. Doofenshmirtz stated that this invention was built to reverse the rotation of the Earth, which he tries to do with magnetism. This ends up not working, though by no problem of the invention, but because of Doof's poor planning and knowledge on what it was actually going to do. This is similar to another invention of his, the Lunar-Rotate-inator, which did what it was supposed to do, rotate the Moon (20:46), but because Doof didn't know how the dark side of the Moon worked (21:48), it failed to accomplish his goal. Doof's inventions rarely fail because they lacks the power for it, and typically just fail because of his poor management, and so if Doof believed the invention to have the power to reverse the rotation of the Earth, then it likely could. As Doof got hit with an object pulled towards him with that same power, it is likely that Doof was hit with that planet-reversing power in that moment.

Hamster & Gretel scaling

So I knew this was going to turn at least a few heads, so I'll give a proper full argument for it. As already stated, Phineas and Ferb takes place in the same universe as Hamster and Gretel, stated directly by both shows' creator, Dan Povenmire. Not only that, but several characters have made cameos in Hamster and Gretel, such as Dr. Doofenshmirtz, Candace, and Stacy. Meap's ship also makes a cameo. The show takes place in the same Tri-State Area as Phineas and Ferb, though not in Danville.

Now for actual scaling, many of the characters in the show are regular people with no super powers of any kind. I know there has been some pushback on "all regular people should be comparable to each other" scaling, but Doof and many others in Phineas and Ferb have shown to be more competent and capable in a fight than the average person. Additionally, most of the major power-less characters in Hamster and Gretel are children, who it would make no sense for Doofenshmirtz to be weaker than. This isn't Street Fighter, where characters are "normal people" but are clearly above the average person in everything. These are literally like if you plucked random people off the street, and they performed superhuman feats. Personally, I see no reason for Dr. Doof to not scale to any regular person in the series.

Hamster and Gretel are going to take some more convincing though, as they are the clearly superhuman characters. However, despite being stronger than everyone else in the show, there are many, many examples of regular humans being able to keep up with them in fights.

To knock out the easy category, speed is a no brainer to scale. No one has ever gotten blitzed by Hamster and Gretel, or their villains (with 1 exception, but the villain was also blitzing Hamster and Gretel at the same time (4:30)). Every single fight that has a Hamster and Gretel-tier character attacking a regular human, the human is able to evade attacks from them at least for a time. Plus, no feat in the Hamster and Gretel series has reached the peaks for speed in Phineas and Ferb, so it should be uncontroversial to scale them.

Strength is different, but still a simple argument for scaling. As shown in the scaling sections for Kevin, Bailey and Nordle, and Other Named Characters, there are several examples throughout the series where regular humans can hurt or take hits from Gretel-tier characters. For a few examples, Kevin could fight the beard villain Van Dyke, who could have a lengthy battle with Hamster and Gretel. Kevin could survive waffles launched from Bayou Barb that were strong enough to hurt Hamster. Bailey could knock regular Gretel villain Fistpuncher down by throwing a book at his feet (8:41). Tia Melissa (Kevin's aunt) could fight the villain El Luchador in the ring (8:16), who not only could fight evenly with Gretel (6:15), but could also explicitly hurt Tobor (7:52), who regularly takes hits from Hamster and Gretel due to being their sparring partner. There are plenty more examples of this in the series.

Something to note is that there are inconsistencies, as these characters are narratively supposed to have super-strength, and thus be above everyone else. However, in practice there's nothing contradicting regular humans downscaling from Hamster and Gretel, if you even want to do that. There are moments where they are portrayed as significantly more powerful, but those are very few and typically for a gag. For example, Hamster hurts Kevin with just a poke, but he claims he wasn't even using super strength for that, just a regular poke (0:20). Plus, he did something similar when Kevin actually did have Gretel's powers (9:03), meaning it was clearly meant as a gag.

In my opinion the feats are far too consistent to ignore. While Hamster and Gretel are treated as superior to everyone else, and they have a lot of the more visually-impressive feats, the fact that characters are able to consistently fight them and their villains shows that they aren't as different as the show wants us to believe.

For a couple smaller arguments, their heat vision has shown to be directly tied to their physical ability (8:56), meaning that they likely scale to their heat vision physically. Additionally, they do not need to be in costume to use their powers. While Gretel typically transforms before she uses any powers, Hamster's regular form without his costume has shown his powers multiple times (1:40) (heck talking is one of his superpowers, and he does it in his normal form regularly). One of their villains Footkicker, who got his powers in the exact same way Hamster and Gretel did, did not know he could change into a costume until far after he had showcased his powers (3:23).

Also this isn't related but the show is genuinely really good. If you like Phineas and Ferb I do recommend at least checking it out. There are a few episodes that are meh, but on average the show is great and really funny.

Black Hole feats

So as you may have seen, there are three notable feats in the series involving black holes/singularities: Phineas and Ferb hitting a ping pong ball until it becomes a singularity, a regular hamster powering a machine that contains a black hole, of which the old people who made it survive falling into it, and Cavendish and Dakota plugging up a "deadly vortex" that everyone later survives. I'll give my thoughts on each of them together, and then tackle them individually. It should be noted that for each one I calculated them two ways, once using the mass of it and comparing it to either the Earth or the Sun (Vs Battle wiki's method), and again using E=mc^2, as when a black hole is created (from nothing) or collapsed, it is converting energy into mass and vice versa. Being completely honest, I am not sure which method is more valid for any of them, I just wanted to provide both options as they are there.

To start, there is a clear difference in surviving black holes and actually scaling to their entirety. Going off of real life, you cannot actually survive a black hole by being tougher, unlike what fiction typically makes you believe. Simply surviving a black hole will not let you scale to the power output of the black hole. However, that is not the only factor here, as all of these feats have other ways to scale. Phineas and Ferb create it, the hamster powers a machine to contain it, and Cavendish and Dakota plug it up. Because of that, they should all be valid for scaling (though the individual feat breakdowns will cover them in more detail).

First up, Phineas and Ferb's ping pong singularity. While it is never directly called a black hole or a singularity, it is called a quantum vortex. I'm not going to pretend like I understand this field of science completely, but black holes and quantum particles do seem to have a connection, so calling a black hole a "quantum vortex" doesn't seem to technically be wrong? At least from what I can tell of course. And plus, look at it. It is created through a build-up of energy, it sucks in everything around it to a single point, the only thing going against it is that it isn't called a black hole directly. In my opinion, this feat is valid.

Next, the hamster's black hole. The hamster clearly scales, it directly powers the machine that contains the black hole, and once it stops moving the black hole is freed (5:48). It is directly called a black hole, it is stated to be able to destroy the planet by both Phineas (11:50) and its creators' son (11:02), it generally has all the makings of a genuine black hole...except for the fact that it doesn't really pull in everything around it. It pulls a lot of stuff, sure, but the ground remains completely untouched by it, and the ship containing it is fine too. However, this is a common thing in fiction with black holes, and Death Battle has occasionally accepted black hole feats that have everything accuracy to real life except for sucking in everything around them (Shazam's most notably), so I feel this feat is valid as well.

Finally, we have Cavendish and Dakota's deadly vortex, which is fighting a real uphill battle for validity. Now yes, it is explicitly stated to not be a black hole and just be a "deadly vortex", but there are some things backing it up. It gets mistaken for a black hole multiple times in the episode (a, 4:35 and 5:30), and while it doesn't act like a black hole in real life, it does act consistently with the behavior of the hamster's black hole. Additionally, despite being rather small, it is implied to have a massive range, as Dakota was able to run several blocks with it being above them the whole time (4:50), showing its destructive power to be much greater than at first glance. Plus, it's called a vortex, just like Phineas and Ferb's, maybe something there. It is obviously extremely debatable if you want to count this, but in my opinion it should be a fine feat.

Island level tree?

A high feat for Candace involves her running into a tree while wearing the super speed shoes in the episode "Run Candace Run". As Phineas displayed at another point in the episode, these shoes move so fast that they are just barely slower than light (8:50), and as such we can use relativistic kinetic energy on Candace's run to get a ridiculous 1.68 gigatons of TNT. A big question that some people may have is how can this number be accurate when this impact failed to even budge a regular tree? Is kinetic energy even valid for this feat at all?

Well, first off this is a cartoon, where almost every single character seen in the show has performed a superhuman feat, and in a world where regular tigers can chomp parts of the Moon and hamsters can contain black holes, a tree being able to withstand an island-level impact isn't as crazy anymore. However, even beyond that trees in the verse have displayed supertree feats (the tree equivalent of superhuman). In fact, in the very first episode a regular, normal pine tree launches a set of full roller coaster cars from Mount Rushmore to Paris, and is able to withstand its own launch. This makes it clear that these trees are not regular trees and should not be judged like them.

So yes, as ridiculous as it sounds, island level tree.

That awesome flagpole that I love

So this is a feat that I didn't even notice on my first watch of the episode, I just happen to be watching this episode again recently with my friends and I saw this. Essentially during the song "Today is Gonna Be a Great Day", Phineas and Ferb take their portal to Mars, at which point they raise a massive flagpole against the surface of the planet, which, given the speed they raise it at, would have an absurd value of 18.24 yottatons of TNT, or Dwarf Star level. Obviously I feel like the legitimacy of this feat may be questioned, so I will do my best to explain why I think it is valid.

So there are several arguments to be made that this never happened. The fact that it takes place during a song that flashes multiple past events, and when they actually did go to Mars this flag was never raised. These are all fair concerns, but it is important to remember that Phineas and Ferb, as a show, is very episodic and has a loose continuity. Heck, this song is being sung 20 years in the future by present-day Bowling For Soup somehow, and the title sequence of the show itself has been referenced by characters in-universe as an event that actually happened. The fact that this feat takes place during a song shouldn't discount it either, since, as established earlier in the Broadway Force section, the musical numbers have many pieces of evidence that they are actually occurring, and this specific song has showcased that as well. In general arguing that an event we see on-screen never happened about a show with as loose continuity as this one doesn't have that much backing to it (unless it's explicitly stated to have never happened of course, but this one isn't).

The other argument I could see getting thrown at this feat is that the flag is only that large for presentation, and not actually massive against the surface of the planet. However, this claim is mostly baseless (which I guess makes sense for an argument I haven't encountered yet, but eh, just trying to cover all of my bases). The flag was never shown compared to anyone or anything else onscreen, and Phineas and Ferb have made things like an elevator to the Moon, so I feel that this flagpole is not entirely outside of their wheelhouse.

Of course, this is all subjective, and I expect this to be one of the more controversial feat inclusions on here. As a whole, while it is one of the strongest feats in the series, it is still weaker than the high-ends of the black holes, as well as Gretel shaking the Sun (which I think is going to be fairly uncontroversial all things considered). It is consistent with the high-ends that the series has shown off in my opinion.

Can characters actually scale to Phineas Tower?

Not in strength I'll tell you that.

No, the argument here is about speed. Phineas Tower is a computer-controlled tower created by Phineas and Ferb that is meant to be difficult to escape (2:30). It learns as it goes, meaning it is possible that Phineas and Ferb get trapped in their forever (2:44). However, as puzzles, they always have solutions that Phineas and Ferb can solve in order to escape. When the tower gets hit by Dr. Doofenshmirtz's Rude-inator, it not only starts acting snarky, but the traps and puzzles it creates are far more deadly. Tying them to a log with a sawblade (7:05), making them stilt-walk over rapid water with sharks, avoiding arrows from a wall, etc. Phineas and Ferb still are able to escape from every trap and avoid every possible deadliness.

At the end of the episode, the tower jumps into space, far outside the galaxy, and envelops the whole thing in a shield (10:46). Both of these feats get absurdly high into MFTL+, and so determining if Phineas and Ferb scale to the tower reaction-wise is important.

The argument in favor of them scaling is that the tower is clearly trying to permanently trap Phineas and Ferb without technically permanently trapping them, and this becomes very apparent at the end of the episode, where the solution to escaping is just digging a tunnel out of the tower (8:17), and presumably doing that same thing again under the shield. The tower even says "you will never escape, never!" (10:49). Because of this, it stands to reason that at least some of the traps would involve the tower trying to catch Phineas and Ferb off guard with something, like the arrows from the wall for example. They were completely caught off guard with that, and yet they still dodged. The reason they don't fully escape in the end is because the tower created a shield that Phineas and Ferb couldn't break out of. While a majority of the obstacles do not involve speed as a factor, there are several that do, and there's no reason that the tower wouldn't be giving its all to defeat Phineas and Ferb at these points when it very clearly does so later. 

In general I believe there are a few occasions that showcase Phineas and Ferb having equal or better reaction times than the tower. There are two other speed feats in the series (in fact both performed by Ferb) that reach trillions of times FTL, so this speed isn't inconsistent at all either.

Can you argue Universe-level Phineas and Ferb?

There are two main arguments that I have seen for Universe or higher Phineas and Ferb. These are Candace surviving Phineas and Ferb's ping pong singularity, which reduced everything seen to a white void, and Doof and Perry surviving Doof's inators blowing up in his face, which would scale them to the highest output of inators. I have issues with both of these.

For Candace's feat, the presentation makes it very difficult to tell what has happened exactly. The singularity pulls in everything visible on screen, but nothing beyond that. Normally, I would be fine with arguing that reducing everything to a white void is universal, especially in the context of cartoons, but the fact that Candace survived via being offscreen means that the range for the feat almost certainly wasn't universal. And yes, Candace only survived because she was offscreen, as we see Phineas and Ferb get sucked into it and there's no reason the same wouldn't happen to Candace if she was closer. 

The fact that we visibly don't see anything from offscreen get sucked into the singularity, and that we have evidence that something offscreen didn't get sucked in, the most logical explanation is that the ball only affected everything on screen, and nothing more. To argue anything higher would be arguing against the presentation of what happened in the show directly.

For Doof scaling to his inators, this is also flawed. The only way that characters could scale to the inators, they wouldn't just be surviving the inator's exploding (since the beams are generally massless, and therefore the inators wouldn't need to be as durable as their power output), but they'd need to survive the power of the inator itself, which they have never been shown to do for the strongest inators. In fact, the only moment of Doof surviving the power source of an inator is the Make-A-Mountain-Out-Of-A-Molehill-inator (20:47), which admittedly is a very strong inator, but is far from his peak.

Not all of Doof's inators require the Universal and above power output that his peaks have shown, and assuming that all of them are fueled by that isn't backed by anything. The only inator that you could potentially allowing scaling to the big hitters is the Repulse-inator, which Doof does survive the explosion of (11:25) (though not at the epicenter of a relatively tiny explosion). However, this is reliant on the fact that the Repulse-inator supposedly uses more power than any other inator (5:09), causing a blackout over town. This implies that Danville regularly circuits an infinite amount of power throughout the entire town, and the Repulse-inator somehow took more power than that, AND that Doof scales to the entirety of the Repulse-inator's power despite not being at the epicenter of the blast. There is far too much going against this to actually be considered viable scaling to get characters to universe-level physically. 

Any of the possible scaling you can give Doofenshmirtz universe-level and above physical power are deeply flawed and have too many holes in them to be viable in my eyes. 

Immeasurable Phineas and Ferb???

There are a couple ways to argue for immeasurable speed funnily enough. They aren't good arguments in my opinion, but they do exist, so I would like to talk about them a little bit.

First up is a line from the song "My Ride From Outer Space", where the narrator sings "if I was going any faster I'd be going back in time", which would be immeasurable speed if legitimate. Of course, that's a big if, and you may already be rolling your eyes at me taking song lyrics literally like this. Generally, I'd disagree, as the songs in Phineas and Ferb typically just describe what is literally happening, but this song in particular is a bit different. It very much is just playing up the speed of Meap's new ship in whatever way possible, with lines like "when I burn through your dimension" and "zero-to-60 lightyears in the blink of an alien eye" not being emblematic of what is happening on screen. Certain, specific lyrics are, but the vast majority, including the supposed immeasurable one, are not.

The other big feat that I think you could argue is immeasurable is characters being able to communicate through time with devices (b, 2:37). Why this would scale to people is that people have dodged radio waves from towers in the series (8:48). Pretty simple. The issue is that the inter-temporal communicators are never specified to actually use normal radio waves, and their status as futuristic technology (plus their name) makes it clear that this is not something that every radio wave can do. So no immeasurable speed from this either.

Oh and moving in a timeless void isn't a speed feat, I don't even think I have to discuss this. Unless you're willing to say gravity is immeasurable, it's obviously not a speed feat.

Do all Inators fire at the same speed?

At first, the idea that all inators fire at the same speed seems like a baseless claim. Most inators have never shown firing at the same time as another, especially not the ones with the highest speed feats. However, as it turns out, there is plenty of evidence backing this scaling up. 

A lot of the inators that have shown the greatest speed feats were not designed with the idea of shooting a beam fast. In fact, the first ever inator was not designed with any sort of purpose at all, only to shoot a beam into space, and yet it reached Mars at speeds significantly faster than light. The inator with the fastest speed feat shown from an inator, the Sphere-Attract-inator, was not intended to be able to pull planets from outside the solar system to Earth, in fact the original intention was to grab a yarn ball from across the country (6:40). These two inators show that MFTL+ firing speeds aren't something that Doof needs to specifically add to his inators, they seem to naturally be able to do that. There's no reason Doof would need the Sphere-Attract-inator to be MFTL+ for his plan, meaning that it is very likely to be the default speed of an inator.

We also know that basically all of Doof's inators fire at similar speeds. While all of them haven't been shown at once, a good chunk of inators were shown off in "Where's Perry", where they all fired at the same spot at similar speeds (21:55). Thanks to both of these pieces of information, we can easily come to the conclusion that at least a good majority, if not all of Doof's inators, fire at the MFTL+ speeds shown from the Sphere-Attract-inator. Thanks to many, many characters consistently dodging these blasts, these would scale to reactions.

Boundless Buford?

It's real, y'all are just mean.

Summary

Attack Potency/Durability: Likely Large Star Level physically (Comparable to characters who can fight Gretel, who threw a canister hard enough to shake the sun. Should scale above a regular hamster, which powered a machine capable of containing a black hole. Scales to Cavendish and Dakota, who plugged up a deadly vortex), Low Multiverse Level, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level with tech (His strongest tech is capable of threatening to destroy the universe, which is a macrocosm containing multiple dimensions. He believed his Time-Straighten-Out-inator was capable of destroying all of existence, which could potentially be fifth-dimensional)

Speed: MFTL+ (Consistently dodges beams from his inators, which can reach planets outside of the solar system in seconds. Scales to Perry, who reacted to asteroids on the outside of a spaceship traveling between star clusters. Scales to Ferb, who reacted point-blank while flying in Meap's ship as it flew from the Shooting Star Milkshake Bar back to Earth, and could react while flying on his asteroid surfboard, which flew past a quasar. Potentially scales to Phineas Tower, which jumped out of the galaxy and enveloped it in a shield in seconds)

  • Has a massive arsenal of inators and gadgets giving him a ridiculous amount of abilities, including:
    • Size manipulation with various shrinking gadgets
    • Devolving his opponent with the De-Evolution-inator
    • Giving himself good luck and his opponent bad luck with the Stinkelkrampen-inator
    • Manifesting someone's worst fears with the Worst-Fear-inator
    • Aging someone up immensely with the Age-Accelerator-inator, or turning someone younger with the Babe-inator or the De-Age-inator
    • Forcing someone to do the opposite of what they would normally do with the Misbehave-inator or the Least-Likely-inator
    • Completely changing someone's personality with the Cool-inator or the Dull-And-Boring-inator
    • And many, many more
  • Several armies of robots that he has built
  • Plethora of Toon Force abilities
  • One of the strongest users of Broadway Force I have seen
  • Surprisingly competent in a fight
    • Most of his weaknesses are specifically against Perry the Platypus, and against nearly any other foe he's shown resourceful and well-equipped
  • Has a wide variety of knowledge in various sciences, though has gaps when it comes to common sense
  • Typically ignores straight-forward solutions in favor of spectacle
  • Loves to monologue

Possible Opponents

I wanted to talk about some opponents for Doofenshmirtz that I really like. Keep in mind I am not too familiar with all of their series, so I won't be able to comment on anything too specific in terms of animation or debate. Also Doof has a lot of opponents, so I'm only covering the ones I like the most.

Mr. Crocker (Fairly OddParents)

I really like this matchup, and it used to be my favorite for both. The characters feel like they bounce off of each other very well, and putting Doof against someone who can match his banter is very fun. In general I think it could make for a very fun fight, though I do prefer Crocker vs Gargamel as a matchup, as it has better connections and is more debatable (Crocker kinda destroys Doof). 

Dr. Drakken (Kim Possible)

I never watched Kim Possible, so I don't know much of what Drakken is capable of, but if they wanted to do a Phineas and Ferb vs Kim Possible matchup, this is the one to do. It just vibes so much more than Perry vs Kim. Unfortunately I haven't heard of anything from Kim Possible that could match the insanity some of Doofenshmirtz's machines are capable of, but it seems cool and would definitely still work as a fight.

Plankton (SpongeBob SquarePants)

It's fun. The characters' personalities bounce off each other well I feel, the size difference is a fun dynamic for the fight, especially since Plankton has mechs that can equalize size easily, and the banter between them would be great. Having Doof fight an animal, but one unlike any he's ever faced would be excellent. 

Wile E. Coyote (Looney Tunes)

What I like about this matchup is that it really plays into the failure aspect of Doof's schemes, and that could make for a really fun dynamic in the fight. Both of their massive arsenals keep backfiring on them, but still hurting the opponent, and they become increasingly annoyed about it, bringing out bigger and bigger weapons as the fight goes on. This also has the opportunity to be a really, really funny fight, the comedic aspect of both of them being a strong suit not many of Doof's other matchups can match. You could also have a scene where it flipwipes and they're just chilling drinking tea or something, and then goes back to fighting. It's just fun. But I'd never rob Wile of the perfection that is Wile vs Tom.

Petey (Dog Man)

This is easily my favorite for Doofenshmirtz. In my opinion, Petey matches Doof in many ways perfectly. He's able to banter with him quite well, his variety of inventions, while not as large as Doof's, can still play off of his easily, and he matches Doof as a villain that starts out goofy but can become genuinely scary by the end of the fight. The connections are probably the best for any Doof matchup. They use constantly use their sad and troubled childhood as inspiration for new inventions and schemes to take over the city, getting stopped by a crime-fighting animal that doesn't talk every time. Over time they would be shown to have a softer side, and eventually working to become a good guy, though they still aren't the best at it. Petey is the character I think plays off of Doof, both his personality and his arsenal, the best. Plus, with the Dog Man movie coming up, he has a major role in that, meaning his popularity is likely only going to grow with time.

Closing Thoughts + Future Projects

It feels so good to finally have this done! This has been a personal project of mine for about a year and a half at this point, and I am so happy I was able to finish it. It really has been off-and-on over and over again for about a year now, and I was getting frustrated at how much work I had put into it, and yet how far I still had to go the entire time. It may seem like a weird time to release this blog, with Hamster & Gretel Season 2 currently airing new episodes, and Season 5 of Phineas and Ferb on the way this year, but I have been wanting to get this done for a while, and this winter break from school finally gave me a ton of motivation to get this done. 

This entire experience has been a trip for me. I learned a ton about how to actually go about research (this was the first time I actually went through all of a character's media and took notes, and boy they are not good). I also learned that making blogs in Google Docs is a lot easier and safer to use than just going straight in blogger. I actually wanted to switch over to using Docs, but by that point I had already done too much in here and I needed to just push through. 

But now that this is over, what's next? Well, I'd like to move into actually making Vs Matchup blogs. Character Analyses are fun, but I'd like to actually do something else. Comparing two or more characters is what this hobby is all about, right? So what's next? Something easier than this, I hope...


...oh.

Yeah this has actually been an idea of mine for quite a while, and I started work on it all the way back in like May or something. Obviously it hasn't been consistent work, as shown with this blog and school taking priority, but I am having a lot of fun with it! I am aware of the reputation that these series, and especially these characters, have in Vs, so I am taking extra care that I treat them both with respect that they deserve. I love both of these characters and these series.

Don't take this as me advocating for this matchup on Death Battle a third time, because I don't really care for that. It's cool, but I'd prefer them to come back against different opponents. I am just making this for my love of the characters and series. I am aware of someone else also making a Mario vs Sonic blog (to be honest I wasn't aware of them until well after I started working on this), but since we're both mostly solo blogs, there's no harm in getting multiple people's opinions on a matchup. 

Well, what about after that? I'll give some information on what I plan on doing. After Mario vs Sonic, I plan to tackle matchups that I don't really care to be on Death Battle, I just think they're fun and have characters I want to talk about. That's the main reason I make these blogs in the first place after all. No more hints until later, but I do think they'll be fun.

As a final word, thank you for reading all of this. This has been an incredible journey for me to make, and I hope you enjoyed. See you next time.

Media List

Phineas and Ferb (Seasons 1 - 4)

Milo Murphy's Law (Seasons 1 and 2)

Hamster & Gretel (Season 1 - Season 2 Episode 11)

Phineas and Ferb the Movie: Across the Second Dimension

Phineas and Ferb the Movie: Candace Against the Universe

How NOT to Draw Dr. Doofenshmirtz

Dr. Doofenshmirtz Theme Song Takeover

Random Rings
- Season 2 Episode 1
- Season 2 Episode 4
- Season 2 Episode 5
- Season 2 Episode 6
- Season 6 Episode 3

Dr. Doofenshmirtz Shark Tank Extra

Commercials (all can be found here)

Character Commentaries (all can be found here)


Take Two with Phineas and Ferb (United States, episodes 1-20)

Doof's Daily Dirt (Episodes 1-40)

Disney's Phineas and Ferb: The Best LIVE Tour Ever!

2010 Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights

Agent P's World Showcase Adventure

Video Games
- 2D Yourself
- Agent Alert
- Agent P and the Puzzle-inator
- Agent P DoofenDASH
- Agent P Strikes Back
- Agent P's Hideout - Spy Simulation
- Agent P: Return of the Platypus
- Anything That Can Pop
- Best Game Ever!
- Bot Thwack
- Chain Reaction
- Cowabunga Candace
- Down Perry-Scope
- Drusselstein Driving Test
- Escape from Mole-Tropolis
- Find Perry
- Food Fight Frenzy
- Gadget Golf
- Gadget Golf: Winter Holiday Edition
- Game Smash
- Heroes of Danville
- Hoverboard World Tour
- Inator Overload
- Isabella's Fireside Music Challenge
- Magnetic Voyage
- Milo Hits the City
- New Year's Blast Off
- Perry Platypult
- Perry Widgets
- Phinball Wizard
- Phineas and Ferb (DS)
- Phineas and Ferb Photo Mashup
- Phineas and Ferb Ride Again
- Phineas and Ferb The Movie Game: The Dimension of Doooom!!
- Phineas and Ferb's Coolest Coaster Designer Ever
- Phineas and Ferb: Across the Second Dimension
- Phineas and Ferb: Across the Second Dimension (DS)
- Phineas and Ferb: Day of Doofenshmirtz
- Phineas and Ferb: New Inventions
- Phineas and Ferb: Quest for Cool Stuff
- Replay Rush
- Robot Attack!!
- Robot Riot
- Robot-inator
- Rocket to the Stars (Out to Launch)
- S'no Problem
- Sound Lab
- Summer Soakers
- Summer Vacation Summerizer
- Super Perry and the Marvel Alliance
- The Fast and the Phineas
- The Walking Doof
- Tower-inator
- Transport-inators of Doooom!!
- Where's My Holiday
- Where's My Perry
- Where's My Summer
- Where's My Valentine
- Where's Perry (UK)

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